(Part 3 of 4)
We decided to sit down and have a chat with our practice owner and MD, Dr. Philip Oubre, and functional nutritionist, Aubree Steen.
We’re diving into another 4 part series. We’re diving into part 3 here, following with:
1. What your toxin bucket is and how it effects your daily life
2. How to test for toxins in the body
3. Foods that assist in detoxification (this video)
4. Supplementation/lifestyle/nutrition support for adrenals
Feel free to watch the video, or read our transcript below.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (00:00):
Hey everybody. It’s doctor Oubre and …
Aubree Steen, FNTP (00:02):
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (00:03):
Also known as Oubree.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (00:05):
We’re so cheesy.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (00:07):
We’re talking about detox this month. This next topic, or next version of detox that we’re going to be talking is mostly going to be the Aubree show because we’re going to be talking about foods that assist in detoxification. We’ve talked in the last couple of videos a lot about which foods to avoid retoxification. And so we just want to remind people that you cannot expect to detoxify if you are retoxifying, and I do the alcohol maneuver, because if you’re constantly retoxing, it’s hard to detox. We don’t just mean alcohol, mean it with everything, whether it be exposed to molds or drinking Roundup or whatever it may be.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (00:44):
In this specific video, we’re going to be talking about foods to detoxify, but it’s important to remember the other stuff from the first two videos, must stop the retox before you can detox. So with that being said, Aubree, tell us all about foods for detoxification.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (00:57):
Okay. So first thing that you do need to actually do, you need to do do, whatever-
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (00:58):
Yeah, the first thing?
Aubree Steen, FNTP (01:05):
The first thing, is you just need to remove some of those toxic foods as well. So before we talk about any of these foods, just keep in mind you need to take out the fried food.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (01:15):
Aubree Steen, FNTP (01:15):
Pop-tarts, processed foods, think of whole unadulterated foods, fresh fruit and vegetables, clean animal protein, healthy fats, avocados, clean oils. There’s a bunch that goes into it. But what I want you to do is actually try to figure out, okay, when… well, let me rewind that. When you start eating healthier, you’re going to start to detox regardless, without doing any supplementation, without doing anything. Because your body’s really smart. We keep saying this, but we really do mean it. The second you start eating better, the second your body goes, “Oh, there’s less circulating toxins. I’m going to start pushing some stuff out from stores.” And you start to naturally-
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (01:52):
And it does that little dance, too.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (01:52):
It does. It does that. You start to naturally detox itself. So when people say, “I’m not doing anything, I just changed my diet.” You’re doing so much just by changing your food. Just by eliminating the toxic foods, you are changing the way that your body is able to detox. That’s why people sometimes, even the practice, they just change nutrition. They’re like, “We’re out.”
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (02:11):
Peace. No, we got more to do.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (02:11):
And I’m like, “No, wait, wait, hold on. You have 10,000 micro toxins in you. You got to come back.” But that’s why. So the first thing is to get those circulating toxins out of your body.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (02:22):
Second thing that you want to do is that, when do you actually start processing those toxins, so as you eliminate you process, your liver’s affected most of your… Your kidneys, obviously too, your lymphatic system, but mostly we focus-
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (02:32):
Your everything system.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (02:32):
Everything. But we mostly focus on the liver itself. And so instead of just taking supplements, which we’ll talk about next, you can actually take foods that have natural detox and antioxidant components to them to help your body do that. Two of the biggest things that we really do like in foods, or two detox components are alpha lipoic acid and glutathione. A lot of people see these in supplements, but there’s actually a lot of foods that have these in here. So as you’re naturally getting healthier, you can eat different foods to help support phase one and phase two of your liver. Both different phases, help with your body, removing toxins and processing them and getting them out of the body efficiently. So anything to add?
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (03:11):
Well, I just want to re-emphasize what Aubree’s already saying, is that we do use a lot of supplements for detoxification. We do push for those. We’ll talk about that in the next video, but we always overemphasize with our patients, you can’t put garbage in and take supplements and think that’s going to wash the slate clean. You’ve got to put good nutrition. That’s 80% of the battle. Good nutrition first, supplements are meant to supplement a good diet, not replace a bad diet.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (03:34):
Because like I said, if you’re eating constantly toxic food, your body is not going to want to push out… Even if you’re taking supplements, it can try to push out those toxins from stores, but your body has a really smart way of blocking that. It knows that, hey, there’s processed glyphosate and other of the 30 different forms of it in my body right now. I don’t really want to push everything out from stores. So this is necessary for when you are doing detox, when you are doing supplements to help your body.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (04:00):
And the nutrition part is also the co-factors needed in detoxification. So there are supplements that can speed up a process, but that process requires B12 or requires folate and requires a whole lot more than that.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (04:11):
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (04:12):
Those are just the obvious ones, right? So they get burnt in the process. The supplement can only do so much if you run out of the necessary components from food and then the supplement just doesn’t do its job.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (04:22):
Right. So this is crucial, but a lot of people go, “Okay, well, what foods are detoxifying?” Ideally, if you’re eating whole unadulterated foods and fresh fruits and veggies, those are naturally detoxifying. But I put together a little list of which ones are going to be the most important. So we will attach this, somehow, for people to see. So you’re going to get this.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (04:43):
But what I wanted to kind of talk about is ideally what you want to aim for is nine cups of leafy vegetables or leafy greens and vegetables.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (04:51):
Aubree Steen, FNTP (04:52):
That’s a lot.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (04:52):
Aubree Steen, FNTP (04:53):
That’s whole cups though, so it’s not just like blending up kale and putting it in a cup. That’s really difficult.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (04:59):
Oh yeah, because that’d be 40 Million cups.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (05:00):
Yeah, exactly. So it’s nine full cups. If you think of a big salad though, there’s probably four cups of veggies in there. Think of a handful as a cup, too, and put three handfuls in there, fourth one is some veggies on top. There’s four cups already. So our goal is nine, at minimum six cups. If you can’t make nine because you eat twice a day, I understand that. But the less you eat, the more nutrient dense you need to be. So if you’re eating one time a day, you better get 12 different veggies in there, some clean animal protein and fat, maybe a little banana. I don’t know, whatever.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (05:28):
Anyways. And they can be in raw form or cooked form regardless, just measure the nine cups.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (05:34):
And then obviously if you cook them and they reduce, then measure them as the uncooked, like spinach. We’ve all cooked a box of spinach and been like, “Really? That was like one bite”
Aubree Steen, FNTP (05:44):
Yeah. And that’s a good way to do it, too. When you can cook them down, they’re easier to eat. They shrink in size.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (05:50):
That’s what I do.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (05:50):
Yeah. I know. [Inaudible 00:05:51]. Nevermind.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (05:52):
I’ll cook anything to shrink it down.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (05:54):
I know. Salad greens one time, “I put cooked salad greens on my taco.”
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (05:59):
Aubree Steen, FNTP (05:59):
I was like, “Oh, that’s disgusting.”
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (06:00):
Aubree Steen, FNTP (06:00):
Okay perfect. Some of the things that we want to focus on are foods and support for the liver and the brain. So like I said before, we’re focusing on ALA and glutathione. They are master anti-oxidants. They protect against free radicals. ALA actually regenerates and recycles glutathione.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (06:15):
Perfect. One other thing too, is that it can increase the cellular uptake of cystine, which is a limiting factor for glutathione. So this just helps another cofactor, another processing agent of this to help get it out of your body.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (06:26):
Perfect example of how food is going to feed your detoxification pathways.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (06:29):
Yes. The first things that are really in support of ALA and glutathione, organ meats are one of the biggest ones. So this is one of the things that I do say that people can take in a supplement form. Ancestral Supplements is really good at doing this. Cook your organ meats, blend them in, put them in with your meatloaf or take them in a pill. I don’t like organ meats to eat them, so I’m not going to be that nutritionist who’s like, “Everyone can eat organ meats.” Because no one wants to eat a sauteed liver, some people do-
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (06:55):
Yeah, if you can do it and you like it, by all means, it’s wonderful.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (06:58):
Sure. Then good, but I’m not going to set that expectation for you that’s very unattainable. So if it’s capsulated, that’s fine. Broccoli, tomatoes, cabbage, spinach. A lot of these that contain also sulforaphane, which is very good.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (07:14):
A Superpower food.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (07:14):
Super power. Glutathione, avocado, asparagus, walnuts, spinach, and okra. Avocado has the highest amount of glutathione. So for everyone right now who’s on the avocado trend, which has been for five years, which I’m very thankful for, eat your avocados. Those are going to help support ALA and glutathione production, but now we want to see how can we help modulate the liver process these toxins and eliminate. Dandelions, the greens or the dandelion root tea.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (07:42):
Aubree Steen, FNTP (07:42):
I know. They have Dandy Blend, which is a coffee substitute. Doesn’t taste anything like coffee, but sometimes you can blend it with coffee. Dandelion greens are very, very bitter.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (07:50):
Aubree Steen, FNTP (07:52):
But the more bitter it is, the better it is.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (07:54):
You got to cook that stuff with bacon.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (07:55):
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (07:56):
But it’s going to make your bacon taste bad, so you may not want to do that either.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (08:00):
Yeah, I know. Definitely don’t want to do that either. The tea is an easy way to do it.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (08:02):
The capsule is an easy way to do it, also.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (08:03):
The capsule is an easy way. Remember, you can always do capsules, too.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (08:07):
Beets. Beets actually roasted or whole or even pickled are really good. You can roast beets and they taste like candy.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (08:14):
Aubree Steen, FNTP (08:14):
Those are one of my favorite.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (08:15):
I love beets.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (08:15):
Broccoli and broccoli spouts, this is where I was talking about sulforaphane. It’s a potent-
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (08:19):
A potentent. It’s so potent it’s potentent.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (08:23):
We’ve had a lot of caffeine this morning. A phase two detox. It combats oxidative stress. And then broccoli, brussels sprouts and cabbage are some of the most highest components of sulforaphane.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (08:35):
They are potentent in sulforaphane.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (08:39):
I’m a nutritionist. I don’t speak very well, let’s be honest. Garlic as always, it’s really antimicrobial. Turmeric, glycine, so glycine is an amino acid, but you can find it in pasteurized eggs or animal protein. This is where quality matters. I don’t care who you are, but the quality matters.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (08:55):
Real quick I wanted to point out too, that there’s superfoods out there as far as like, “Oh my gosh, garlic is a superfood and all this.” It’s important to remember that you have to balance superfoods with how much of that quantity you’re going to eat. So turmeric is a superfood, but in my opinion is not very tasty, so I’m not going to eat a lot of it, but I will eat a lot of broccoli. So even if broccoli is a little bit lesser of a superfood, although it is a superfood, I guess that’s a bad example, you would eat a lot more broccoli than you would the turmeric root. So another example is cinnamon is really, really high in antioxidants, but that’s something you’re just going to sprinkle on food, not really eat cinnamon sticks raw. So it’s important to balance that, what is a superfood and how much of that are you going to eat?
Aubree Steen, FNTP (09:37):
Yeah. Sprinkle it in. Just a little extra fentanyl can kill you, right, a little extra cinnamon can help your blood sugar and help you feel better.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (09:45):
Okay, that’s a comparison.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (09:46):
There’s potency… Obviously pharmaceutical.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (09:48):
Aubree Steen, FNTP (09:48):
There’s potency and there’s efficacy of things and there’s a symbiotic relationship of different foods that we can’t quantify. So if you put a little bit of garlic in there, but you have other alliums like onions and sauteed even greens with a little bit of pasture-raised pork, all those different components are going to help each other be absorbed and maximized in your body. So you don’t need to eat 10 cloves of garlic a day, just put a fresh garlic clove in your food and they’ll do its job. So that was a really good point. So when we talk about veggies, too, get a smattering of them, but don’t take one of these.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (10:21):
Don’t make a garlic salad.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (10:21):
The biggest thing I hate… please don’t make… it’s easy if you eat it with two apple slices, if you just wanted to eat it, but it’s weird.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (10:29):
No, no. Just cook it.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (10:30):
Yeah. The biggest thing I want to kind of harp on, which is my pet peeve, I do not like, I was going to say hate, when people say, “Eat this one superfood for your brain. Eat this one superfood to lose weight.” It doesn’t work like that. You have to eat these all together with a symbiotic relationship for them to maximize the potency and efficacy of it.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (10:51):
Aubree Steen, FNTP (10:52):
Yes. Rotate, don’t just eat garlic every day. I mean you can, but anyways. I digress. Artichokes are wonderful-
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (11:00):
We said this video was going to be shorter.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (11:01):
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (11:02):
We’re already at 10 minutes.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (11:02):
So I’ll just kind of talk… okay. Some artichokes stimulates bile flow. Berries, which is really good, helps in metabolizing pro carcinogens. Also your liver processes toxins, but it also has the job of making toxic components less toxic in the body.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (11:16):
Aubree Steen, FNTP (11:17):
Okay. Very simple way of putting it. So then I break it down into phase one and phase two. You’re looking at B vitamins. A lot of these B vitamins and magnesium, milk thistle even, well, that’s mostly in supplement, but you can find it in some foods, vitamin E, zinc, NAC, you’ll see these in supplements, but they’re in foods that we eat every single day of our life. Again, quality matters. But you’re looking at asparagus and mustard greens and almond and pasture raised eggs, sunflower seeds, which I already said that, salmon. I want you to take this list and see how many foods you’re eating of this a day and which ones you can incorporate. If you’re having a salad every day, be like, “Yeah, I can add some wild caught salmon in there. Sure.”
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (11:56):
Another thing you can do if you’re going to take the supplement, although we’ll talk about that in, I guess in the next video, is you don’t need to take all of the supplements. You have a plan and say, “I’m going to take these three or four that have a symbiotic relationship.” And then trade and take three or four different ones. But don’t feel like you have to take that whole list of supplements.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (12:14):
Yeah. Same with foods, just do what you can. Again, very repetitive, but B vitamins are one of the most important components of detox. They impact energy levels, brain function, cellular metabolism, anything really that you can think of in this process.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (12:29):
We kind of call them kamikaze. They’re burned and used and then they’re gone. So you need to constantly replace them.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (12:34):
Yeah. That’s a good way of putting it. Beet greens, cabbage, spinach, see, you see a lot of repetitive, wild caught sustainable fish, pasture-raised organic eggs and then, of course, polyphenols to help with the brain and oxidative stress. So there you go.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (12:47):
What are polyphenols? Where do people find polyphenols?
Aubree Steen, FNTP (12:51):
Fruits and veggies.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (12:52):
Colorful ones, right?
Aubree Steen, FNTP (12:52):
Colorful ones. Every different color of each different fruit and veggies have different phytonutrients, different polyphenols, different antioxidant components. I actually have a list of all the different colors and what they have in there too, which again is part of our course. Things that you all eat on the daily basis, coffee.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (13:08):
Yes. Coffee, superfood.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (13:09):
I know one person who eats sardines for breakfast, two people actually.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (13:13):
Aubree Steen, FNTP (13:13):
I know. John John.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (13:14):
But good for you.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (13:16):
Coconut, cacao chocolate, think of really dark, rich unadulterated cacao with no cane sugar.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (13:22):
Not the Snickers. That’s not a detox.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (13:29):
That doesn’t count. Basically a bunch of different veggies and fruits and animal proteins can help you detoxify. We’ll put this list up here, but just do the best that you can, to be honest.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (13:37):
Yes. Keep it simple. And of course we’ve put together our course. Go to our website to sign up for the course on detoxification, but mainly just nutrition. Nutrition is such a huge part of everything that we do, or everything you need to do that if you just even just do the nutrition course, you’ve already made plenty progress towards a future healthier you.
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (13:58):
Subscribe to our channel, like our videos, share it with your friends and let’s help detoxify everyone in this industrialized society.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (14:05):
Dr. Philip Oubre, MD (14:05):
And we’ll see you for our next video on supplements to detoxify, but notice that’s the last one. Not retoxing and food are way more important than supplements, so that should be a shorter video. We’ll see you next time.
Aubree Steen, FNTP (14:15):
Cool. Bye guys.